Deuteronomy 15:1-18; Exodus 21:2ff; 22:25ff; Leviticus 25:36ff
AI-GENERATED SUMMARY
Concluding the series on the poor, Pastor Tuuri expounds on Deuteronomy regarding the “poor loan” and the remission of debts. He distinguishes between the “poor loan”—an obligation to lend to needy brothers without interest or hardness of heart—and general indebtedness, which he characterizes as abnormal and a result of the curse. The sermon asserts that refusing to lend to the poor because of the approaching year of remission is a sin, urging the congregation to have a “soft heart” and an “open hand” just as God redeemed them from Egypt. Tuuri warns that voluntary debt involves a denial of God’s dominion and a return to slavery, exhorting the congregation to seek freedom and to release others from debt in the seventh year as a covenantal duty.
SERMON TRANSCRIPT
Deuteronomy 15:1-18. Deuteronomy 15 verses 1-8. If you’re taking notes, other passages which we will allude to but not look at specifically will be Exodus 21 verse 2 and following, Exodus 22:25 and following, and Leviticus 25:36 and following. We’ll now read Deuteronomy 15:1-18.
At the end of every seven years, you shall grant a remission of debts. And this is the manner of remission. Every creditor shall release what he has loaned to his neighbor. He shall not exact it of his neighbor and his brother because the Lord’s remission has been proclaimed. From a foreigner you may exact it, but your hand shall release whatever of yours is with your brother.
However, there shall be no poor among you, since the Lord will surely bless you in the land which the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance to possess, if only you listen obediently to the voice of the Lord your God, to carefully observe all the commandments which I am commanding you today. For the Lord your God shall bless you as he has promised you, and you will lend to many nations, which you will not borrow, and you will rule over many nations, but they will not rule over you.
If there is a poor man among you, with you, one of your brothers, in any of your towns, in your land, which the Lord your God has given you, you shall not harden your heart, nor close your hand from your poor brother. But you shall freely open your hand to him, and shall generously lend him sufficient for his need in whatever he lacks.
Beware, lest there is a base thought in your heart, saying, “The seventh year, the year of remission, is near, and your eye is hostile toward your poor brother and you give him nothing. Then he may cry to the Lord against you and it will be a sin in you. You shall generously give to him, and your heart shall not be grieved when you give to him. Because for this thing the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in all your undertakings.
For the poor will never cease to be in the land. Therefore I command you, saying, you shall freely open your hand to your brother, to your needy, and poor in your land. If your kinsman, a Hebrew man or woman is sold to you, then he shall serve you six years, but in the seventh year you shall set him free. When you set him free, you shall not send him away empty-handed.
You shall furnish him liberally from your flock and from your threshing floor and from your wine vat. You shall give to him as the Lord your God has blessed you. And you shall remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the Lord your God redeemed you. Therefore, I command you this day.
And it shall come about if he says to you, I will not go out from you because he loves you and your household since he fares well with you. Then you shall take an awl and pierce it through his ear into the door and he shall be your servant forever. And also you shall do likewise to your maidservant. It shall not seem hard to you when you set him free, for he has given you six years with double the service of a hired man. So the Lord your God will bless you in whatever you do.
Let’s pray. Almighty God, we thank you for your scriptures. We thank you for the gift of the Holy Spirit given to us in the basis of Christ’s doings of which this day is the memorial. We pray now Lord God that we would be sensitive to the spirit as he teaches us from your scriptures things of you. Help us, Father, to have open hearts to your scriptures, open minds to understand those things and open hands to act in obedience to them. In Jesus name we pray. Amen.
Today’s message will conclude the series of messages we began some months back, several months ago, dealing with the poor and God’s provision for the poor as discovered in the scriptures. I thought it appropriate on this last Sunday of that series of messages to sing “Bringing in the Sheaves,” which of course is the title of George Grant’s book that really kind of got us going to a certain degree on some of this thinking several months ago with the publication of that book.
We’ve attempted for the last few weeks to several months actually to understand what’s taught in our relationship to the poor, to understand that these are covenantal truths we’re putting into practice. We have covenant grace given to us, and we’re to extend covenant grace and life-giving grace to those around us who are destitute and to certain groups such as the widow, the fatherless, and the strangers that we’ve talked about in months past.
Hopefully, at this point in time, you’re beginning to implement some of the things we’ve talked about in terms of a tithe box perhaps in your home or some method of utilizing that portion of your tithe which is to be used for the fatherless, the widow, and the stranger. Hopefully, you’re thinking of inviting in people to our love feast, our communion table after the preaching service on Sunday, who again meet those qualifications of fatherless, widow, stranger, and the poor that they may rejoice with us in the gifts of God and his plenty.
And hopefully last week you were encouraged to begin to think through what gleanable resources you have around your home or perhaps in your workplace that you could put to use for those people who are poor in the land and again widows, fatherless, and strangers to work—working charity as it were. Gleanable resources that would have us reduce our level of profit and yet be a means of providing other people work that they can eat.
Now today we conclude the discussion of the poor loan as it’s called. And before we do that, I thought of one comment on last week when we talked about gleaning. We talked about the principle of gleaning, what is involved in it and God’s law, what’s required of us, and then we compared gleaning to Hands Across America and we saw the benefits of gleaning as opposed to a humanistic program such as Hands Across America.
Remember I tried to point out there that there are several fallacies in Hands Across America that are going to be real problems for us as this thing gets worked out. The whole aim, I think, is consciousness raising. That’s the whole purpose—a rising consciousness toward the end that people would lobby politically for more federal involvement in charity programs. Ninety billion a year which we spend on those sort of transfer payments isn’t enough apparently. We need more money to be spent on those things—money that has been taken coercively with the sword from people who are hardworking to give to people who may not want to work at all and yet supposedly have a right to food.
We talked about that. That’s one of the things you want to watch for with this whole development of Hands Across America—the political ramifications of it. We talked about the fact that government egalitarian poverty programs are geared around the fact that everybody has a right to food. And we warned you last week about the term “right to life,” correlating that with what could be said about “right to food” because food is a necessary component of life.
We quoted from an interview with John Lofton and Gene Kruppert about that, where she said that she’d be a good conservative, yet she says that in America, we shouldn’t let anybody go hungry even if they don’t want to work. Well, Howard L. brought an editorial out of the Oregonian, Wednesday, May 28th, a couple of days after Hands Across America, written by David Sarasone, “Hands Across Reagan, a Better Idea.” And he stresses just what we talked about. He says we’ve got to get the federal government involved more. That’s the proper purview. We’ve got to spend more money on these programs, more egalitarian charity programs.
And he says, not only is private giving not really enough and can’t take care of the job, he says it shouldn’t even be in the hands of private charity groups to begin with. And why? He says the problem with relying on private actions against hunger is not simply that it doesn’t work, but that it shouldn’t be necessary. It shouldn’t even be necessary to have private charity involved in helping the poor.
Why? He says feeding people—private charity can do certain things such as supporting churches, buying a museum, buying Oregon State a fullback. But feeding people is something else. Eating is generally considered a basic right. And for the protection of that kind, the Declaration of Independence pointed out governments are instituted among men. So the transfer from private charity, which this country began with—voluntary associations to help poor people—over to the hands of the monopolistic state, the egalitarian state welfare program, he sees as being completed in terms of his political process.
He takes the idea of a right to food and says the basis of that is that the government’s supposed to provide, make sure everybody’s rights are met, right? Therefore, the government has to take money from you and give to people who don’t want to work.
So I think if you go back over that tape, you’ll find that all those things are really happening and are going to be a real problem for us in the future. But in any event, today we want to talk about the poor loan quickly. Basically two things we’re going to discuss today. The first is the poor loan, our obligation to the poor in that regard. The second thing we’re going to talk about as a corollary to the poor loan is debt.
The passage in Deuteronomy 15 we just read speaks to both of these things. We’ll talk about both of them.
If you’re taking notes under the poor loan, we’ll discuss five points. First, the poor loan involves an awareness of our gift from God. The poor loan involves a soft heart to our brother in need. The poor loan involves an open hand to our brother in need. The poor loan involves a Sabbath rest for our brother in need. And finally, the poor loan is a covenantal fact and therefore has blessings and cursings associated with it.
Under the heading of debt, we’ll talk about five points. Indebtedness is abnormal and a result of the curse. Secondly, debt is normatively seen for covenant breakers, not for covenant keepers. Third, debt involves a denial of dominion on the part of God to the person involved in debt. Fourth, debt involves a denial of dominion on the part of the person who voluntarily indebts himself. And fifth, debt involves a denial of the gift that we’ve been given from God in our salvation.
First, on the poor loan itself: the poor loan involves a call for an awareness of our gift from God. And by now, we’ve seen this pattern throughout these special programs that God has called us to be involved with in terms of the widow and the fatherless and the stranger. We’ve seen this same principle at work: that God has given us a father. We were fatherless. God has adopted us. We were strangers. God has given us a land, a whole earth to live in. That’s his land after all.
We were widowed as it were. So we have the bride—we are the bride of Christ who is the bridegroom. And so God takes care of our widowedness. We were poor in spirit. We recognize our poorness in spirit being in relationship to the fall and to the sin that we have, personal sin and to our lack of salvation with God. And God moves to meet that poverty of spirit by giving us the riches of Jesus Christ and salvation.
And these things are all taught in relationship to these other groups. And just to stress again, that doesn’t mean we want to understand these things totally allegorically or symbolically. These things are real requirements on us. And the scriptures say that if we understand the covenant of grace, if we understand the grace we receive from God, we will exhibit it to these other groups in society. It’s not just a teaching device. It’s real people we’re talking about and real concern by God for these particular groups of people.
In Deuteronomy 15 verse 4, he says in the context of issuing these obligations or laws to us in relationship to giving loans to those who are truly in need. He says there should be no poor among you. The Lord will surely bless you in the land which your God has given you as an inheritance to possess. So the context of the laws to us to provide loans—no interest loans to the poor among us—he says, he reminds us that we have been brought into the land that God has promised us.
The specific reference obviously is to Egypt and looking forward to salvation in Jesus Christ. So God reminds us of our salvation, of our position in relationship to him and of his grace extended to us in the context of the laws that he gives us.
Now I mentioned that we’d be talking about Leviticus 25 a little bit. Leviticus 25 issues these same commandments in terms of no interest loans to the poor of the land. And in the context of that also we see the same thing being taught. In Leviticus 25 he says, “Do not take serious interest from him, the poor man, in other words. But fear your God that your countrymen may live with you. You shall not give him your silver and interest, nor your food for gain. I am the Lord your God who brought you out of the land of Egypt to give you the land of Canaan and to be your God.”
So the commandment to have this kind of open heart to the poor in our land and to issue these no interest loans to them is in the context of God’s deliverance of us. And as I said, that’s the pattern we’ve seen throughout the scriptures in relationship to these special requirements that God has put upon us in terms of the poor.
So in order to understand the poor loan, we have to understand that we’ve been given the things that we have graciously by God and we therefore should open our hands to those around us who are in a position of poverty.
Secondly, the scriptures tell us God tells us in this same chapter in Deuteronomy 15, he says, “If there’s a poor man among you, Verse 7, in any of your towns, you shall not harden your heart, nor close your hand from your poor brother.” God says, I want you to have an open heart toward those people in your land who are poor. And talking about believers here, by the way—these are covenant obligations to us. Those members of the covenant community who have come upon hard times and as a result of an extreme emergency have requirements for immediate capital or immediate funds and therefore come to us looking for a no-interest loan.
Scripture tells us, God tells us as a direct command not to harden our hearts toward that person. Now, it’s easy in the context of the social welfare programs we have in our country to harden our hearts toward poor people because we know that a lot of those poor people aren’t poor at all. They won’t work. Some of them are poor for other reasons, worshiping false gods or whatnot. It’s easy to begin to develop a hardened attitude and not demonstrate the compassion we want to have.
Last week, we talked about Hands Across America. The last thing we want to do is say the scriptures mediate or dictate against having a heart of compassion toward people who have problems in terms of getting food and shelter. That’s not what the scriptures say. The scripture says we do want to have a heart of compassion. God says you want to open your heart to your brother in need. You don’t want to harden your heart.
He says specifically that you have to give this person a no interest loan. And then he says in verse 9, “Beware lest there’s a base thought in your heart saying, ‘The seventh year, the year of remission, is at hand.’” The year of remission meant that the no interest loan that you gave to the covenant keeper in the midst of you who had emergency needs—that loan that you were given was to not have any interest and it was to be remitted at the end of seven years, in the seventh year. That loan is totally forgiven.
And he says if he’s coming to you and it’s one year before the Sabbath year is to occur, don’t let a base thought come into your heart, okay? That would be hardening your heart against the poor in your midst.
Now, it’s interesting just in passing here that this indicates that our heart attitude—our compassion toward other people—is volitional. He says don’t harden your heart. Open your heart. Don’t let a base thought get into your heart. Well, that means that we’re not just supposed to wait for some kind of sentimental feeling to come over us. We’re to move volitionally to correct the wrong attitudes and the wrong feelings we may be having toward those people who are truly poor through no fault of their own and through an emergency. You understand that? It’s not just a feeling. It’s a volitional act of the will. We’re to soften our heart to them. We’re not to harden it.
Third, as a direct result of that and demonstrating that our heart is indeed softened toward them, we’re to open our hand to those people. And it goes on right in verse 7 that we talked about: “You’ll not harden your heart nor close your hands from your poor brother.” If we think that we haven’t hardened our heart and we have compassion, we keep our hand enclosed. When a person in true need comes to us, we haven’t softened our heart yet. We’ve hardened it volitionally as a sin against the requirements that God has given us.
He says, “Open your hand to your poor brother in need.” He commands us to give these no interest loans, these loans that are going to be remitted in the Sabbath year to the poor in our land who are covenant keepers, who are members of the covenant community. So we’re to have a soft heart understanding, as we do, that we’ve been given grace by God and we’re to open our hand as a result of that freely and generously.
The scriptures tell us that God loves a hilarious or cheerful giver. The Greek word there is a word for hilarious in the scriptures. God loves a cheerful giver. And we read in Psalm 126, “They go forth weeping, sowing with tears will reap again. Or rather planting in tears will come back and reap in gladness and joy.” God loves a hilarious giver.
Well, this isn’t really giving is it? It’s a charity loan. But remember when we talked about this several months back that this involves—since it’s no interest—a cost to us, a real cost. We could take that same money that we loan to a person in need and invest it or make it productive or buy a tool with it so we can be more productive. There’s an opportunity cost to money which God is telling us we’re not going to be able to take. So it does involve charity. It involves a gift, as it were, of that money to the poor in our land and perhaps even a total giving of that money to them if they can’t repay in the Sabbath year.
So there is an idea of charity involved here. We’re to open our hand freely, generously demonstrating that we understand what God is requiring us to do.
The poor loan also involves Sabbath rest. As we said here, the Sabbath rest is mandated in terms of the seventh year, the debt being remitted. The context in Deuteronomy 15 or one of the other passages that we read has to do with indebtedness. It says that the no interest loan you give a person in need is to be remitted in the seventh year. And he also says that if you have a brother of yours who indebts himself to you, you will release him in the Sabbath year.
Now, as far as I can tell, there are only two reasons in scripture why a brother, a covenant keeper, would become your slave, would sell himself into slavery. One reason is because of criminal activity and a failure to be able to make restitution. God says that if the person cannot make restitution, he—the thief will be sold for his restitution to the person. Okay? So a person would sell himself into slavery to have the capital to make restitution for a crime. That’s one way.
The other way is through indebtedness. The scriptures tell us that if a man is extremely in debt, has no way out—it’s not a one-time shot where a poor loan would help him—he can sell himself into slavery to another covenant member as a direct result of indebtedness. There’s a linkage in scripture between debt and slavery or servitude. And so we see in this passage that both the short-term debt, the emergency loans that we give to those in need, is to be remitted in the seventh year.
And those believers—covenant keepers who have sold themselves into slavery for that debt—they’re to be released in the seventh year. You see, those two things are parallel. They teach the same truth: that debt slavery are not good. And because they’re covenant keepers, because they didn’t enter into this as a necessary direct result of God’s curse, there’s to be a Sabbath rest given to them.
The Sabbath rest is in a sense a reminder of God’s rest and his finished work in the creation before the fall. And it reminds us also of the rest that Jesus Christ has bought which will be future manifested to us in a greater degree than it is now. When we get together on Sundays, we think about heaven. We think about what God’s plan is throughout history to create a people to himself who no longer will be indebted, no longer enslaved because they’ve been set free by Jesus Christ.
The Sabbath teaches these things. And so the Sabbath was commanded to have this remission of debt, remission of slavery, so that everybody would once again—in the Sabbath year—meditate upon those things that God had set them free. Additionally, the Sabbath, we’ve talked about this a lot, is a time of covenant renewal. The Sabbath is a covenant sign after all. We’ve been reading throughout the scriptures all the references to the Sabbath.
And God equates the Sabbath, his priority in terms of time, to our obedience to his covenant relationship to us. And so it’s a reminder to us of the deliverance from Egypt. We’re delivered out of slavery. And so we have Sabbath rest in Jesus Christ. So for that reason also debts and slavery were remitted in the seventh year.
Just in passing since we brought up the thorny issue of slavery, we’re going to touch on it throughout the talk. We won’t be able to spend a great deal of time on it, but it’s important to recognize here that slavery as practiced in the South denied the central principle. Dabney, who I have spoken of very favorably and quoted from in this church many times—a great Southern Presbyterian theologian who lived at the time of the Civil War—wrote a book called “Defense of Virginia” in which he gave a biblical basis for slavery.
And that was pretty good. But then he went on to say that the case law application in the Old Testament in terms of remission of slavery in the seventh year for covenant keepers, for the believers, was no longer binding on us. He was inconsistent. And that was a primary problem in the South—that they did not deal with their slaves the way God told them to. They treated them as property and continued to treat them as property even when they converted to Christianity.
They didn’t give them remission of slavery in the seventh year. They could have given them remission before the seventh year as well. Of course, Paul when he talks about Onesimus, the slave of the New Testament, says that this man could be remitted and let free. But in any event, the South suffered from this problem where they wanted their cake and eat it too, as it were. They wanted to say that slavery is biblical, but slavery doesn’t have to be remitted. So it’s not that all the laws regarding biblical use of slavery have to be abided by.
Also, of course, the slave taking that led to the problem of slavery in the South was a direct result of kidnapping which is against biblical law and calls for the death penalty. So there were a lot of problems with Southern slavery. But in any event, it was permissible under the old covenant and I believe also the new covenant for a person to sell himself into slavery to another believer if he had debts or had to make restitution. But that slavery has to be remitted in the seventh year.
And finally, in relation to the poor loan, verses 9 and 10 tells us there are blessings and cursings associated with us if we obey or disobey this commandment from God. Verse 9, the seventh year is the year of remission. It says that if you harden your heart, have a base thought against your brother and you give him nothing, then he may cry to the Lord against you and it will be a sin in you.
So if we don’t obey the law of God which commands us—if we have resources—to give no interest, six-year maximum loans to people who have emergency needs who are members of the covenant community, if we don’t do that, then he may cry out to God and God says it’ll be sin in you. And we know we’ve talked about many verses about God’s concern for the poor in the land. And God’s concern for the poor is also shown to these covenant members who have fallen on hard times.
Conversely, in verse 10, it follows up with the blessings rather. “You shall generously give it to him. Your heart shall not be grieved when you give it to him because for this thing the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in all your undertakings.” And I can mention other verses as well in the context of specific case law applications of this law from God where he says that if you do these things you’ll be blessed in everything that you put your hand to do.
So the commandment to have these poor loans available for people is a very real one that involves covenantal fact because they are to be given to covenant keepers. They’re not to be given to the unbeliever. The unbeliever may be indebted to you, but you have no obligation to give it to him interest free. You can charge him as much interest as you want to a pagan. You have no obligation to remit in the seventh year since he is in slavery anyway.
But to the believer, to the covenant keeper—those we can visibly say are in the church—those people we are commanded to make poor loans available to because we are commanded of it. It’s a covenantal fact that involves blessings and cursings. If we don’t do it, God will curse us. If we do it, God will bless us. Very simply.
Now, these verses talk a lot in the context of debt. It teaches us a lot of things about debt itself, apart from the poor loan provisions that it talks about. And I want us to spend a couple of minutes now talking about debt and looking at these same verses and seeing what they teach us about debt itself.
I think that in our land today and the situation we’re in, gleaning will take care of most of the problems that we’re going to have in this country in terms of those people who are poor and particularly those people in the covenant community. The poor loan is applicable of course, but it won’t be something you’ll be involved with every week. On the other hand, the idea of indebtedness and the consequences of indebtedness that are talked about in this passage are with us continually in this country.
And so I want to spend the rest of the time this morning talking about indebtedness and what God has to say about it.
First of all, this passage of scripture as well as many others says that debt is abnormal and a curse. Okay? Verses 4 and 5 of Deuteronomy 15—the normative, what God desires for his people, is to have no poor among us at all. And he says why? Because you’re going to obey me. If you obey me, there’ll be no poor in the land at all. Poverty or poorness, which led to debt, was non-normative. It wasn’t supposed to be the modus operandi, the standard principle we have in terms of covenant life. We’re to be walking in obedience to God’s laws and as a result keeping out of poverty, okay? So poverty is not normative.
Verse 5 says the condition of this is: “If you listen obediently to the voice of your God, obey all his commandments,” he says as a direct result of that in verse 6, “The Lord will bless you and all he has promised. You will lend to many nations. You will not borrow.” So we know that the scriptures tell us that what God thinks is normative for the covenant keeper today—what he tells us is normative—is a life of obedience to the law of God resulting in blessing from God and us loaning to other people and not borrowing.
So if we borrow money, if we’re involved in indebtedness, it’s not normal. It’s a direct result of disobedience. Deuteronomy 28:12-13 says the same thing. The list of curses and blessings primarily there talks about the fact that one of the curses from God against covenant breakers will be that you will have to borrow from many nations. They’ll be over you. You’re not over them.
Now, that’s strange for us today. I’m not going to make anybody put up hands, but I would think that there’d be very few people in this room who aren’t involved in some kind of indebtedness, okay? Now, it’s important to say that for a couple of reasons. One, it’s important to say it because the things I’m going to say for the next couple of minutes here are going to be kind of hard on us. I think they’re right. I think that God’s word teaches it. But I think it can be really difficult for us to sit under these sort of requirements of God’s law in terms of indebtedness and keeping away from it and be comfortable.
So don’t think I’m singling out anybody here is what I’m saying. We’re all probably—most of us at least in this room—are involved in indebtedness to some degree. So don’t think I’m picking on you and don’t think that you’re in a situation that the guy next to you in the pew isn’t in. We don’t have financial disclosure statements in this church. We won’t have them, but believe me, if we were to have them, a lot of us would be in debt.
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## Reformation Covenant Church
## Pastor Dennis Tuuri
**Q1:** Questioner: Why are most of the people in this church involved in debt?
**Pastor Tuuri:** Well, you know, it’s because the world out there teaches that sort of thing. We’ve grown up in a culture that is indebted to the hilt. It is a debt culture. We were talking up at the Reconstruction Conference. Roy and I were kind of laughing about the various terms that the various speakers were applying to our people, the average guy.
Doug Alexander talked about “mass man”—and I found out the Russian [author] talks about that in politics. By the way, the average guy he calls “mass man.” McMaster talked about “drug man” as being the normal person today or normal society, you know, involved in drugs—”drug man.” But I think that probably a more accurate description for the average American today would be “debt man.” That’s what we have in our country—debt man.
The country is indebted. We know that the national debt is extremely high, but we know also that that’s a direct result of people’s own personal debt also being extremely high. Now, I just want to spend maybe a minute or two talking about why some of this has come to pass. It has to do with our economic system. I hope this doesn’t bore you, but I think it’s real interesting. It’s important to understand what our culture is doing to us, the way it’s pushing us, so we’ll be able to discern what things are biblical and get away from those pressures of society that are unbiblical.
You understand what I’m saying? It’s like Os Guinness’s tapes on modernity that we talked about—many of us have gone through. The last person you want to ask about water is a fish. He’s so immersed, and he doesn’t understand it. We’re so immersed in a debt mentality in this country. It’s hard to get back away from it and understand what’s wrong with it.
One of the things that Rushdoony points out in *Law and Society* is the funny use of the term “credit” these days. He says if it’s possible to speak of words as falling from grace, we’d have to say that’s the case of the word “credit.” It’s falling from grace. Credit has its roots in the Latin word *credo*, which means “I believe”—or is supposed to have—you know, it’s supposed to be a good thing. It has merit to it, that you have a belief system, that you have something positive in your life. Going on credit is normal. In the past it has always been used that way as a good thing.
Well, today, if you try to apply for a loan, they’ll tell you, “You don’t have enough credit,” which means that you don’t have enough indebtedness. If you never borrowed money and you go and try to borrow money someplace, they’re not going to loan it to you because you don’t have credit. It’s like Newspeak, right? Black is white. Credit is now debt. They equate the two. If you’ve got debt, you’ve got credit. Now, this has happened because—well, one of the reasons is there was a man named John Law who lived from 1671 to 1729, and he apparently is the father of the modern banking system.
And what he said was, “We don’t want gold or silver or something tangible like that. The assets of the country want to be measured by the productivity or the potentialness of the nation as a whole.” And so if you’ve got a field, for instance, that maybe could support—I don’t know—100 acres of wheat and bring in that much revenue over 50 years—let’s say I don’t know how much money you could bring in from that piece of land. But that’s the value of the land now. And we’re going to issue money on the basis of you having that land because its potential is this much productivity. You understand?
You don’t make the wheat, sell it, and then produce money into the economy. You have money introduced into the economy on the basis of potentiality of resources, not on the basis of actual production. A simple statement of Law’s doctrine was that money should be established on the evidences of commercial wealth—actual or potential—upon land and its potential.
Rushdoony in *Law and Society* says that in terms of the Louisiana Territory, the wealth and potential Law imagined was actually there, but it required countless generations to develop it. The point is that, yeah, this area of land, this field of wheat or field that could be used for wheat may have potential to it, but it takes years to develop it. If you inject that money into the economy now, it’s really a denial of reality. It’s attempting to do what we said before—turn credit into debt.
Law’s economic system was reliant upon the future, and it was using up future productivity today. Okay? And that’s what debt does. It says that what we might be able to produce in terms of income over the next seven years, we’ll use now. We’ll buy something now with that potentiality. It’s what it does right now. Rousas John Vos in *Money and Man* says that system was developed even more past what Law had envisioned it.
He said Law attempted to build a money system based upon evidences of commercial wealth. You see, it was still potential. It was wrong, but it was still an evidence of some wealth. Modern banking attempts to build a money system upon evidences of debt. Law—now, Law sought by the mightiest touch of banking to convert tangible wealth produced and above ground into money. Modern banking seeks to convert our debts, our lack of wealth, our promises to pay from proceeds of wealth, which is still unproduced and still in the future, into money.
And so banks try to indebt people. That produces it. It raises their tangible assets—their asset level—means they can lend more money. They’re trying to turn debt into wealth. Not just based upon potentiality anymore. It’s based upon indebtedness itself. We become a debtor nation. We become a nation that is ruled by this principle of debt.
Now, it’s important to recognize that this problem of indebtedness is not a result of somebody coming into the land and forcing an indebted system on us. Okay. I believe it was Rushdoony who talks about how Roosevelt, when he first tried to greatly expand the money base in this country in his era, had a hard time doing it, introducing all this new money, because people just didn’t want to borrow the money. If you can’t get them to borrow the money, you can’t inject all that capital into the economic system, which isn’t really money at all. It’s debt money.
So the problem today isn’t so much the banking system. There’s a lot of books about conspiracies of the bankers to enslave America and all this stuff. And there may be—there’s always people out there that want to do that. But the problem is we’ve got a whole people that is geared toward that understanding. We want to be indebted. We want things today and not to have to work for them in the future. We want to eat up our future reserves today, and we may never have the reserves even.
There are now people who are mortgaging their houses with long-term indebtedness on variable rate mortgages. They know they’ll never be able to pay off. Their kids are going to have to pay off their houses for them. They’re not just giving their kids zero inheritance. They’re giving them a net minus inheritance. They’re eating up their children’s wealth as well as their own wealth.
The problem today is us. The problem is the American people who want to, who are allowing themselves to, or voluntarily entering into these debt relationships. Now, we know that there’ll always be men out there who will take advantage of that. Now, the scriptures we just read talks to that fact—that there’s dominion, there’s rule involved with indebtedness. Okay?
Fallen man does not get rid of his idea of dominion. He attempts to exercise it illegally or in a perverted fashion. He seeks to exercise dominion over people by ruling over people primarily. Now, God has called us to exercise dominion over the earth, over the subhuman creation. People we’re not to exercise or lord over in that way. But fallen man doesn’t have those sort of things going on. He’ll try to exercise dominion over people and produce slaves of everybody.
Now, man himself has an urge to slavery. He understands—and we understand that man tries to deny this to himself—but he’s a creature of God. God is our ruler. We’re his slave. And so many people want to be enslaved to something, and they’ll become enslaved to this modern banking system.
The basis for all this problem, as I said, is our own personal willingness to enter into debt. What’s why is that? Why do we enter into debt for things today that we can’t really afford, that we won’t be able to afford for a number of years?
**Q2:** Questioner: Isn’t covetousness a central part of that problem?
**Pastor Tuuri:** Yes. We look at something somebody else has, what our neighbor has, you know, his house or his car. Now, in this congregation, not his wife—we know that’s wrong. We know that’s immoral. But it’s just as immoral to covet his car or his house or something else that he has. And that covetousness, which is a sin in itself, produces sinful activity in terms of indebting ourselves.
We want to keep up with our brother in the pew, right? And so we’re going to try to get, you know, material things. We ought to be—I guess one term would be—Christian yuppies. We want that sort of material prosperity even if we can’t afford it. So covetousness leads to debt acquisition of those things which we can’t really afford.
Another primary factor in all this, of course, is immaturity as well. After all, it’s going for present gratification instead of saving up for long-term acquisition of things. We want it now. God tells us the answer to all this in 1 Timothy 6:7, where it says that contentment with godliness is great gain. It says that be content with food and raiment. That’s where to be content with. Contentment is the answer. I believe one of the primary ways that God tells us how we’re to get away from that debt cycle is to be content with what God has given us.
Recognize that it is a blessing of God that we have food and shelter, that we have a house to sleep in. These things are blessings from God. Don’t deny that blessing by wanting something bigger and better or something that he hasn’t given you the ability to have.
Now, I guess I should point out quickly that acquisition of material assets is not a bad thing. God wants us to prosper. He promises that he will prosper us financially and in other ways. It’s not wrong to have a big car. It’s not wrong to have a big house. It can be a very good thing to be used and exercise dominion in your particular sphere that God’s given you to operate in. It’s when you want those things, can’t afford those things, and go after them anyway, that’s when you run into problems with indebtedness.
Debt, according to the scriptures, is abnormal, and debt demonstrates a curse that we placed upon ourselves. Now, debt in the scriptures is also seen primarily as for covenant breakers. In Deuteronomy, verse three, “From a foreigner you may exact it, which is interest, and the total—let’s see—from a foreigner you cannot remit his debt in the seventh year. You may exact further slavery from him, but your hand shall release whatever of yours is with your brother.”
Debt in the scriptures is seen as control of people. And God says that fallen man—there’s no Sabbath release for him. Okay? Why is that? Because he’s never been released from slavery in the first place. He’s in slavery to sin and to his own debts. You know, Bob Dylan had that real popular song: “You got to serve somebody or be enslaved to somebody—God or man.” And these people don’t want to—the covenant breaker has never released from the slavery that he has to other things. He’s never been released in Jesus Christ, and so he becomes a perpetual debtor.
So debt is seen as a way of controlling the ungodly urged dominion of covenant breakers. They have a scarcity in the land, which holds back their ability to wreak havoc, as it were, and debt will help discipline them to a certain extent.
Third, debt is seen as a denial of dominion by God. In Deuteronomy, verse six, “The Lord your God shall bless you as he has promised you. You shall lend to many nations. You will not borrow. You’ll rule over many nations, but they will not rule over you.” God says that if we come to a position where we’re indebting ourselves, we’re not ruling over nations, then they’re ruling over us. Okay?
Debt and entering into debt relationships results in God’s denying dominion to us. God says that those people who involve themselves in debt will end up serving other nations—and the only other nation around is the pagan nations—instead of ruling over them. It’s important in that regard too to see that distinction in the way that people rule.
We know that, as much as it’s been said otherwise, that Christian Reconstruction does not seek submission of other people to an iron fist. Christian Reconstruction seeks to set people free in Jesus Christ through the preaching of the gospel and then to exercise a degree of control over society so that we can prosper. Pagan rulers, however, have no such understanding of dominion. Their understanding of dominion is an iron fist. And if the nations rule over us, if we allow ourselves to be indebted, to be ruled over by other nations, they will not treat us with the kindness that God commands us to treat other people with. Okay.
Fourth, debt is a denial of dominion by man. Proverbs 22:7 says, “The borrower is servant to the lender.” Romans 13 commands us to owe no man anything. Debt and slavery are linked, as we’ve been pointing out here. To allow oneself to be put into a debt relationship and into a position of servitude or slavery to another person is a denial of dominion by ourselves. We’re saying we don’t want to exercise control. We’re saying that we want to be under submission to pagan lenders. Okay? So we’re denying it ourselves.
Now, there are some good aspects to all of this stuff in terms of debt, though. And that is that debt teaches discipline and responsibility to people. Here again, there’s this linkage in these passages between debt and slavery. Well, the covenant keeper, the covenant member of the community who allowed himself to be sold into slavery for debt, he could be physically punished. Okay? And that sounds real bad to our modern ears, but you think about that. What other members of our household are physically punished? Our children. Our children are disciplined by means of external application of corporal punishment to them.
And so people who are indebted and become enslaved as a result of their debt, they’re seen as being irresponsible. They’re seen in a relationship to the owner of the house as a child, where he has to have external discipline put upon him to help him do what’s right. He’s denied maturation in terms of his own personal well-being. He’s put himself into a position of long-term debt. And as a result of that, he now has denied his maturation. As a result of that, other processes have to be brought upon him.
Discipline—raising children is a system whereby you take external disciplines, external punishments, external methods of helping a child behave correctly, and over a period of time you hope to internalize them. We don’t want to be spanking our kids when they’re 20 years old. We want at that point in time to have taught them the word of God and how to discipline yourself so they’ll no longer have to receive those sort of external disciplines. They’ll be self-governing. They’ll internalize all those principles. And so it is at the slave. God has created debt to bring external discipline upon a person.
Household slavery, which, like I said, we can’t get into in detail, but is a good thing, I think—for a person to be indebted into a household, if he owes the money, household slavery produces the same thing. It’s a maturation process for the person who has denied his maturity in the faith. And so this external punishment brought upon him—to the end that he would learn to internalize all that—and hopefully by the seventh year, the year of remission, he’ll go forth a free man and recognizing his freedom.
James B. Jordan in his master’s thesis on slavery quotes from the Marine Drill Corps instructors at Parris Island. In relationship to this, you have to think about this in relationship to the owner of the slave—to the slave whipping him. He says, “The drill instructors used to say, ‘We know it’s tough, boys. We’re only doing the job mama and papa never did.’” Well, that’s kind of what debt does to us. We should have received the kind of contentment that we know is correct, the kind of self-discipline to avoid indebtedness from our parents and from their instruction.
Now, it’s not their fault. We’re personally responsible for these things. But if we don’t do that, God will bring these external forces—slavery, physical punishment, or indebtedness, constant monthly payments. He’ll bring those sort of external disciplines on us to correct us and to bring us back to a position of maturation.
You know, I was thinking about this last night, this morning. Benjamin was our—you know, our two-month-old—was crying a lot. And these days there’s a lot of emphasis upon demand feeding. Well, that’s kind of what debt is. It’s like demand feeding. Soon as we want something, we cry out for it. We can’t have it. We go down with our Visa card and we get it. Immediate gratification. No long-term postponement.
We don’t do that with Benjamin. He’s on a three-hour schedule now. And it’s kind of hard on the younger kids. They don’t understand why we don’t pick him up when he’s crying or feed him. We tell him that he has to learn to discipline himself away from a constant demand schedule. Debt is the same way.
Debt also involves, finally, a denial of the gift that God has given us in terms of deliverance from sin. After all, the scriptures talk about us as being slaves who are purchased, redeemed through the blood of Jesus Christ—purchased, okay. We’ve now become slaves to God instead of slaves to sin. That’s why the covenant breaker man can remain that man—because he’s not been released from his slavery to sin. God has bought us out of slavery to sin. He’s made us slaves to him.
He said that debt is equivalent to slavery. “The borrower is servant to the lender.” He says that if you enter into debt, you’re denying that you’re my slave. 1 Corinthians tells us that since we’ve been bought with a price, that we’re not to become slaves to anybody else—since we’re slaves to God, don’t enslave yourself to another man. We’re God’s slaves. To enter into debt denies our dominion calling, removes our dominion calling from God from God’s perspective, because it denies the central fact that we’re God’s slaves now—been bought with a price.
Since debt involves denial of the gift of grace that God has given us and purchasing us out of slavery to sin and pergiving us a Sabbath rest, as it were, in salvation, debt also results in our not being able to show that grace that we’ve received from God to others. Remember, we’re to give to other people when they need a poor loan, when they need gleaning, when they need emergency help. We’re to give on the basis of God’s grace to us. If we deny God’s grace to us by saying it’s not good enough, we want more, we want to enslave ourselves to creditors—if we do that, we won’t be able to show that kind of compassion to others.
If we are constantly impoverishing ourselves and our children and constantly being in a debt position, how can we help somebody else? If we’re borrowing, if we—the people of God’s, the apple of his eye, the covenant people, the people that God has promised to bless—if we all become indebted, how are we possibly going to treat somebody who comes into our congregation who has a true emergency need because of health or some other problem and needs a poor loan? You won’t have any money to loan that fell. You’re in debt yourself.
See, like we talked about, the parable of the Good Samaritan teaches us we have to have resources. If we continually give away what we have to people in some sort of Anabaptist sort of way, in terms of giving away all our possessions and never having possessions, when we come across that guy lying in the road hurt and beaten up, we won’t be able to give them the resources. We won’t be able to put them up in a hotel and get him back to health. We’re to have resources and be able to do that.
In the same way, if we indebt ourselves and our resources are constantly being poured out of our house to some debtor agency, which is pagan and a denial of our salvation in Jesus Christ—if we’re constantly doing that, we won’t have the resources to help that person who is set upon or has physical needs. We won’t be able to provide charity. We won’t be able to provide poor loans. And probably all of our able resources are going to have to be used up just to pay off our creditors.
Debt is a bad thing. That’s what I’m trying to get at this morning. Now, you know, I know that it’s not enough simply to say that debt’s a bad thing. We have to find a way out of it. And I’ve tried to point out some of those things as we go through this.
I want to point out that contentment is a large tool that God gives us to avoid indebtedness. Long-term savings, thriftiness is a good tool to apply toward getting out of indebtedness. Recognizing we’re to postpone present gratification for the sake of future benefits is a good way to get out of debt. To recognize if you see something you like, say, “Let’s save up the money so we can buy that thing. Let’s discipline ourselves. Let’s be mature in this thing so we can get these things that way.”
But it’s important to recognize, as much as we want to exercise dominion, as much as we may see things that are necessary for the exercise of our dominion, whatever it may be, as much as we think they’re so necessary to our life today that we have to go into debt to it—we have to recognize, like we said last week in terms of “Hands Across America” trying to really help poor people—there’s a way that seems right to men, but the end of that way are the ways of death. If we sin against God, we harm our own soul. Okay? And all those that hate God, they love death. They end up loving death.
We have to recognize that if we want to get out of this problem, it takes a commitment to getting out of indebtedness. It takes a commitment to understand that God’s word and law does apply to us today. We’re big on saying that in this church, and I think we’re big on practicing it. Let’s take that practice into our economic concerns as well. Let’s take every possible opportunity to reduce our personal indebtedness, to postpone present purchases, and not enter into them with a debt mentality.
Let’s recognize that God has given us a gracious gift of salvation. Let’s come to church on Sunday and really rest, not worrying about the debts that we have in mind because we’re eliminating them, because we’re getting rid of them. Then we’ll have true Sabbath rest before God. If we get ourselves out of slavery to the pagans of the land around us—now, it’s important to recognize that it’s not going to be an easy thing.
Our economy has been built on indebtedness. Our economy is now controlled by people who are debtors. After all, if you loan a guy enough money, he has a lot of control over you eventually if you give him enough money. Because if he defaults, this is what’s happening with South America now. If he defaults, you’re in trouble. It’s not going to be easy, particularly as we go into the next couple years of possible prosperity and maybe some inflation. It’s not going to be easy to stay out of debt. It’s going to look very profitable to enter into debt, but we don’t look at the bottom line of the balance sheet every day.
We don’t do seven-year projections on our financial picture, and on the basis of that, make our decision on what we’re going to do in life. If we did that, we’d be involved in new and creative ways of theft. After all, that’s going to increase our bottom line on the balance sheet, if we can get away with it, right? And these days, we know that with the prison system being what it is, we would get away with it probably. No, we want to run our life according to the word of God. We know that if we run our life to the law of God, recognizing the economic restraints that he puts upon us, the balance sheet will be positive even if it doesn’t look good compared to our neighborhoods entering into long-term indebtedness.
There’s a second thing to remember in all this too. We said that there’s a tremendous cycle of debt in our country and in the world. It doesn’t take much in this sort of situation for the whole thing to come collapsing down. Now, things seem to be going along real good at the great depth. But it seems to me that if several key players see that it’s to their financial benefit to cause the thing to break down at some point in time, they’re going to do it.
If they force a calling of loans by South American countries, for instance, if they force one of these sort of things to occur, there could be a rapid collapse of the economy—not because something’s gone wrong, because somebody’s trying to exercise dominion by enslaving great numbers of people to himself more obviously than through debt. You see what I’m saying? This debt will have to be paid for eventually. And when that happens, if we’re involved in debt, we’re going to be in a far worse position. If we’re free and clear, if we have resources, we’ll be able to extend God’s gracious hand, resulting from our compassionate heart, to those in our land who, as a result of that fall, be on very hard times.
Let’s remove our personal indebtedness so we can help other people, so we can serve our God as true slaves to him and not slaves of anybody else. It’s going to be hard over the next 5 years financially in this country, the next 5 or 10 years. It’s going to be very hard to stay out of debt, and as a result of our staying out of debt, we may be put upon financially by other people.
But I’d like to close by quoting from Isaiah 54:17. “No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper, and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of me, saith the Lord.” Let’s stay servants of God and not of debing agencies in our land. And let’s recognize if we do that, God has promised to be covenantally faithful to us, continue to show us covenant grace and blessing.
Let’s pray. Father God, we thank you for yourself. We thank you, Lord God, that we have been bought with the price that Jesus Christ paid, that great price for our sins. We acknowledge and confess before you that you own us, that we are your slaves, that you have given us laws, Lord God, to obey, and you’ve given us promises of blessing and cursing if we obey or disobey.
Help us, Father, as a congregation, to stay out of debt. Help us as individuals, Lord God, to reduce our personal indebtedness. Help us not be hypocritical, Father, by complaining about federal debt while not taking care of our own. Help us, Father, to be disciplined, mature believers, once again walking in obedience to your scriptures through the power of the Holy Ghost because of the shed blood of Jesus Christ and his purchase of us.
Father, we thank you that you’ve translated us out of a debt to sin into being debtors of yours. That you’ve commanded us to owe no man anything except accept the debt to love one another. Help us, Father, to enable ourselves to be able to love other people by providing for them financially, as well as reducing our own indebtedness.
Almighty God, we thank you for the grace you’ve shown to us in Jesus dying for our sins. Help us not to shun that grace or to use it as a cause of license and liberty. Help us, Father, to use that freedom to serve you in everything that we do, including what we do with our pocketbooks. We ask it in Jesus’ name. Amen.
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