AI-GENERATED SUMMARY

This sermon expounds upon James 5:13–18, presenting prayer not merely as a source of comfort but as an “all-sufficient armory” and an activist force capable of changing history, illustrated by Elijah’s power to stop and start the rain1,2,3. Pastor Tuuri interprets the “sickness” in this text (kamno) primarily as spiritual weariness or faintness resulting from persecution—parallel to Hebrews 12:3—though he acknowledges its application to physical illness and the medicinal or consecratory use of oil4,5. He emphasizes the role of the elders in interceding for the weary and the necessity of mutual confession of sins within the body to break the power of entrapment6,7. The practical application exhorts the congregation to be a “praying people” who engage in both individual and corporate prayer to affect the world and restore one another6,8.

SERMON TRANSCRIPT

# Sermon Transcript – Reformation Covenant Church
Pastor Dennis Tuuri

Amen. Sermon text for today is James 5:13-18. Please stand for the reading of God’s word.

Is anyone among you suffering? Let him pray. Is anyone cheerful? Let him sing psalms. Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church. And let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. And this prayer of faith will save the sick, and the Lord will raise him up.

And if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another that you may be healed. The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much. Elijah was a man with a nature like ours, and he prayed earnestly that it would not rain, and it did not rain on the land for three years and six months. And he prayed again, and the heaven gave rain, and the earth produced its fruit.

Let’s pray. Father, we thank you for this word. We thank you that it’s filled with interesting things, things that are hard to understand, but things that are very simple to understand as well. Help us, Lord God, to leave here today with the simple message of this text and also perhaps with some renewed understanding of some of the ins and outs of it and the things that we wonder about. Bless us Lord God by your Holy Spirit.

We thank you for this time to come together and hear from you about your word and may it indeed have its effect upon us to encourage us in the faith and seek out the kind of encouragement we need when we’re sick, distressed or troubled. In Jesus name we pray. Amen. Please be seated.

Do you have any idea what a tremendous blessing prayer is? Do you know what the Bible says about prayer? How important is it to you? Do you realize what the tremendous gift that prayer is to us individually and corporately? Do you have any cognizance of the effects of our prayers and the ability of our prayers to make changes in the world around us?

Do you understand—and I speak to myself as well—the power of prayer, the blessings of prayer, the love of God that both gives us the gift of prayer and then hears our prayers and answers them because of the merits of Jesus Christ?

This text is about a lot of things and some of them are complicated and confusing. What’s that anointing with oil thing? What’s that prayer of faith? What’s that, you know, “you will be healed” thing? In fact, what does it mean to be healed? What does it mean to be sick? It’s not clear. Commentators disagree even what the subject of this text is. Is it physical illness? Is it depression? Is it spiritual difficulty or weakness?

What are these things? It’s hard to tell. And I don’t think we can necessarily—I certainly am not going to make definitive statements about some of these particular details that the church has not agreed on for a good many years. This text is used as a proof text for all kinds of things: both for seeing oil as a medicinal thing only, or for the Catholic Church coming up in the eighth century with the doctrine of extreme unction for those that were dying.

I mean, there’s all kinds of things that happen with a text like this that isn’t necessarily all that clear on specific details—not because the speaker is less than clear, but because our ears need more cleaning and more sanctifying. So there’s lots of things we don’t understand about the text, but the big deal, the big ticket in this text is prayer.

Prayer is mentioned in every verse. There’s like four, five, six different Greek words about prayer that are used throughout this text. It is all about prayer. Now, added to that at the end is confession of sin. So that’s a subtopic, and between those two topics—if we just leave here with a renewed appreciation for prayer and its significance in the life of the church both for individuals, for the elders praying with people, and for corporate prayer or group prayers, friend prayers as well—then we’ll come away with the main intent of this text.

Even the illustration of Elijah, which is an odd one in my view, but the illustration is given to buttress our understanding about the power, significance and blessing and the ability of prayer to make a dent in the world around us. So even the example of Elijah is given to buttress prayer. It’s an odd example I say, just to get you thinking a little bit.

What example would you use in the life of Elijah? You know, the Bible doesn’t say in First Kings 17-19 that Elijah prayed and then there was a drought for three and a half years. Doesn’t say that. It does say that prayer restored it and it shows an interaction between God and Elijah about that. But that’s an odd thing if you’re—if this is a text about physical illness, and I’m getting off into the weeds already, I know.

But if it was a text about recovering from illness and prayer to recover someone from illness primarily, what would you use in the life of Elijah? Well, I think I’d use the one with the widow’s son, right? Because there we actually see Elijah at prayer wrestling with God about this issue, and God answering it and raising the boy up. I would have used that one, but the author doesn’t. Why? These are interesting things to consider. And we’ll get to some of that stuff, and I’ll offer some ideas about it.

But what I can preach with certainty about this text is that you and I should be a praying people. We should be a praying people individually, right? It says, “If you’re sick, pray.” Or if you’re discouraged or weak—it actually means if you’re suffering, if you’re suffering some bad problem, usually attacked by evil people. That’s what the word—the first word used for suffering here—has nothing to do with illness.

If you’re suffering, pray. If you’re feeling good, don’t forget God when you’re feeling good and are happy and blessed. Pray. It’s a different form of prayer. It’s sing praise, which can mean either playing a musical instrument or singing. But either way, you’re singing praise to God, which is another form of prayer. And there, if we wanted to take the time, we could look at New Testament texts that link up.

Praising God is a form of prayer. So even in our good times, we pray—we pray with petitions to God if we’re struggling, or with praise to God, and maybe both of those of course depending on the situation. And by the way, when it says here that if you’re doing well, if you’re joyful, sing psalms—very important for us—it doesn’t mean psalms necessarily. It means songs. Can mean psalms, but it doesn’t restrict itself to that. But it’s very important, you know, that when we have good times or when God gives us grace in the midst of suffering, very important that we praise God in those times. Just as important—the way the text reads—as praying when we’re struggling.

So it talks about that individual prayer at the beginning. And then it says under certain conditions, you’re to call for the elders of the church and they come and pray for you. So now instead of just you praying and me praying, now there are times when you should call for the elders, or the elders should recognize your need and we get together and pray for you and anoint you with oil under certain conditions. So now we’ve moved from individual prayer to an emphasis on having the elders pray for you.

And then finally it says that we’re to pray for one another as well. We’re to confess our sins and pray for one another—you might be healed. So the third form of prayer is prayer with friends, prayer in your community groups, prayer with other members of the church, even the prayers we offer here on the Lord’s day.

So prayer is the deal. And it’s individual prayer. It’s praying with the elders, or for them, for you rather. And it’s praying with other Christians. So this is what this text is primarily saying. And in the context of that, as I said, it also talks about confession of sin.

So as you go into your community group, if it meets this week or next week, should be an easy topic of conversation applying this particular text of the scriptures to what you do in those groups—praying for one another and confessing sins to one another. How do you do that? If you’re not getting a lot of that going on, ask your group. If you’re a leader, think of some things. How do you get to that level of sharing, confessing sins with each other?

All right. Prayer. And it’s a tremendous blessing. There was a preacher named Chrysostom. This is in the fourth century in the early days of the church. And many of you have heard the name Chrysostom. That wasn’t actually his given name. His given name was John. They named him Chrysostom, which translated means “golden mouthed” or “golden tongue,” because he gave great sermons. He was really good at it, and so his name reflected that. The name that the people gave him, of course, he’s a famous personage in the early centuries of the church, and he gave one of these wonderful sermons on prayer.

Here’s what he said, and I’m going to read some things here. What he’s doing is giving a list of prayer and its significance in the scriptures. Here’s what he says: “The potency of prayer has subdued the strength of fire. It has bridled the rage of lions. It has expelled demons. It has broken the chains of death. It has assuaged diseases. It has rescued cities from destruction. It has stopped the sun in its course. It has arrested the progress of the thunderbolt.”

Now, all he’s doing there is making allusions back to biblical text that say this is what prayer does. Do you see? I mean, it’s hard to overestimate the significance of prayer. And I think most of us in the modern day underestimate it a lot. Why pray? We say, “Well, if you don’t want the mouths of lions stopped and you don’t want rain to stop and start, and if you don’t want people healed or brought back from the dead or whatever it is, yeah, why pray?” Right?

If you don’t need those blessings in your life, yeah, don’t pray. But if you do—and we do—if we struggle under the conditions of our life, then this text says when you struggle in the conditions of your life, pray, brothers and sisters—kind of number one job, right?

Remember, we’re in a summation thing here in this text. We’re in the summation of the whole epistle. First of all, speak properly, right? Speak the truth. Be accountable. Be dependable in your truth. And then the next topic, an extended topic involving several verses, is: pray.

So when he gets to the end here, look, now listen. How did the text begin? How does James begin? Begins by saying count it all joy when you encounter various trials, right? Knowing that the trials produce growth in your life, sanctification, right? It produces faith, and let faith have its perfect work. You know, that you become perfect in all things—I mean, in other words, mature. You reach the end and purpose for which God’s created you.

That’s how it begins. Now, at the end, it’s addressing again the various trials you’re encountering, but it’s changed as well. So it’s an arc, right? A character arc. I saw that movie Lucy. That’s not really a character arc. That’s like a character like this. If you’ve seen the movie, you know what I’m talking about. It just, you know, she starts here and she goes right by—the end of the movie, just wow, right? Not really an arc, but we call it a character arc.

So in this epistle, there’s an arc. It begins by talking about trials. It ends by talking about trials. But it begins by talking about trials to you individually, right? “You count it all joy when you encounter various trials.” And by the end, when we get to the culmination of the epistle, what’s he saying? “You, when you encounter various trials, pray. You, when things are really bad, call for the elders. And you, on a regular basis, pray with other members of the church.”

We move from the exhibition of the problem and the call to endurance and joy to means of attaining that joy, which are twofold in the way I’ve just described it. One is prayer. That’s how you count it all joy. Prayer is part of that, and it’s prayer that actually can change the conditions of things you’re involved with. The Elijah example, and number two though, it’s moved from an individual suffering here to by the end—yeah, you’re still alone. You still pray alone, but you also work corporately.

So it brings you into the corporate community, into your community group. Think of it that way as the way you’re going to become joyful in trials. Now, if you don’t listen to the end of the book, you’re going to miss all of that, and if you don’t link it up with how it began.

But you see, prayer is tremendously important, particularly when you’re in a time of judgment, time of trials, time of difficulty. The twelve tribes dispersed. America on the decline. Christianity being, you know, more and more persecuted worldwide—more persecution this last year than years for years on end. In those kind of times, brothers and sisters, we need to be a praying people. We just need to be a praying people.

And as Chrysostom said, look at all these examples. Why should we pray? Not because it’s the only option. Not so that things will be okay and our spirits will be quieted as we’re going through problems. There is that, right? All the difficulties we worry about can come from lack of prayer. So there’s certainly assuring our hearts before God in prayer. But prayer makes a difference—that’s what Chrysostom is saying.

You want things changed. You hunger and thirst for righteousness. Pray for that, right? And so this narrative moves us in that direction.

Let me read more of this sermon from Chrysostom. He says: “There is in prayer an all-sufficient armory, a treasure undiminished, a mind never exhausted, a sky unobscured by clouds, a heaven unruffled by any storm. It’s the root, the fountain, the mother of thousands of blessings.”

Now, I can’t—I’m not golden-tongued, but he is. What a wonderful section of his prayer, his sermon on prayer, reminding us both of the power and effectiveness of prayer and then the fact that it will never be extinguished or run out because you’re going to the throne room of God who controls all things.

So Chrysostom reminds us of the central importance of this text. And the one thing you should walk away with today, the one thing you should think about when you offer yourselves by means of the symbol of your productive increase this last week—the one thing you should think about is: I need to pray more. I need to be a praying person. And I, maybe, my prayer needs to be changed. Maybe my prayer needs to be a little more activist and not quite so, you know, putting up with things. Just my prayer isn’t—in other words—just a way to make me feel better.

My prayer is a way to count it joy knowing that my prayer is founded upon the fact that history bends to righteousness and inclines that way, and your prayers affect the degree of the incline and the degree of the bend. So prayer is the gig here, brothers and sisters.

And as I said, prayer is given in several different dimensions. Look at the verse. Open your Bible, look at it, and we’ll just, you know, make the same point I just made. Is that bad? No. I need it. You need it.

Is anyone among you suffering? Is there anyone here suffering? I know lots of you that are suffering. I know some of you that aren’t suffering. But when you suffer, and believe me, the recipients of James’s letter—this is what it was all about, right? They’re—what are they suffering? By the way, they’re suffering persecution. They’re suffering that stuff. But as has been clearly made obvious in this text, they suffer internal divisions. They suffered bad speech from one another, bad attitudes, right?

It’s interesting he says here, “Pray for one another.” As the text moves forward, what are the “one another” texts that preceded this? Well, there were a couple. He’s just told us earlier in this chapter, “Don’t grudge against one another. Don’t have this resentful spirit one another.” And earlier in the epistle, he said, “Don’t slander. Don’t talk down. Don’t demean one another.”

So there’s three “one anothers” that I’ve spotted in the text. Both the first two are examples of speech one to another that they are suffering. But by the end of the epistle, what are they doing now by way of—if they’re following this instruction now? They’re praying for one another. Big change.

So the suffering that we have is not just—at least if we’re with James’s audience—it’s not just persecution exterior. There’s problems on the interior. And these problems are likewise to be addressed through prayer and confession, praying for one another instead of slandering each other. Praying for one another, not grudging against one another. Okay?

So that’s what he says here. If you’re suffering for whatever reason, let him pray. If you’re cheerful, let him sing psalms. As I said, make music on a guitar, strum the strings—is kind of what this word means. But it can also mean: sing, express your joy to God in that kind of prayer.

Is anyone among you sick? Now this word “sick” could just as easily be translated “weakness.” Doesn’t necessarily refer to physical illness. And this is one of those kind of mysteries of the text that I just talked about. But let’s just leave that alone for a minute.

Is anyone among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer of faith will save the sick, and the Lord will raise him up. And if he has committed sins, he’ll be forgiven.

So personal prayer with the elders.

Verse 16, or rather: Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another that you may be healed. Well, I missed one another, didn’t I? You know, so we got over here: don’t slander one another, don’t grudge against one another. And I said the third one is pray for one another. But before it says pray, it says confess your sins to one another.

So there’s four “one anothers” that are sort of balanced here, right? Two negative: “don’t do this.” But two positive. And so the way to healing, health, effectiveness, the way to make a dent in the world around us and in our own lives, the life of this city and the cities you live in, is to confess your sins to one another and pray for one another.

See, so that’s the gig here. So praying for one another is found in verse 16. And then it kind of wraps this up by saying: the effect of fervent prayer, the powerful working of prayer—the word “energy” is the word here, the basis for our word “energy,” is “fervent.” If you work hard at prayer, it’s effective. If you work hard, as a righteous man, it avails much. It’s effective.

And then to close the section off, he gives us an example of Elijah. Elijah was a man with a nature like ours. Okay? Just like you and me. Put his pants on one leg at a time. Put his toes on—this, well, whatever it was, I don’t know. And he prayed earnestly.

And what that means is it says—praying, he prayed. It uses the word prayer twice there. And so it’s translated in our text as “prayed earnestly,” but it really is “he praying, he prayed.” In other words, he kept at it. He was repeated in his prayer and he was dynamic in his prayer. It wasn’t, you know, a mousy kind of thing. It was really getting into a solid conversation with God.

He prayed earnestly that it would not rain, and it did not rain on the land for three years and six months. Okay. So and then he prayed again—then it rained, right? And he prayed again—the text says—and the heavens gave rain and the earth produced its fruit.

So the way these verses are divided up, every verse has the word “prayer” in it at least once. So the main deal, the main message of this text is: pray and pray believing that it makes a difference in the context of the world.

You know, Jesus tells us that “I will do whatever you ask in my name so that the son may bring glory to the father.” He says, “I’m going away, but ask things of me, but I want to glorify the father. What I do”—he says in this text—”I’m going away, but the things I did, you’ll do. The work of Jesus will continue through us. But they’ll continue through us. And one of the specific means that happens is that we ask for things from the son.”

Okay? So by prayer, the work of Jesus is affected through his people in the context of the world. So the big deal here is prayer. Pray. Pray over and over and over. Pray. Pray expecting that it will be effectual. Pray remembering the source of blessing that the Lord gives us by prayer.

So prayer is the big deal, and in the context of that we’re talking about several different kinds of prayer. And maybe you’re good at the corporate prayer and maybe you’re lousy at your individual prayers. So what this text is a call to us to do is to bring them together.

You know, there’s that old song: “What a friend we have in Jesus. Oh, what peace we often forfeit. Oh, what needless pain we bear. All because we do not carry everything to God in prayer.”

So there’s that element of it. Prayer is important for our personal well-being and our state of mind to remind ourselves that God is in control. But secondly, as the example of Elijah shows, our prayer is effective for a particular purpose.

All right, let’s talk a little bit now. That’s the big deal—prayer. But what are some of the other things, some of the big issues in this text? You know, so what are some of the questions? Well, what do these words mean? Do they mean “health” words or other words? And let me just tell you what I think.

And this is what I’ve come to after meditating on the text, studying the text, thinking about the text. Well, let me work backwards just a little bit. So one of the big mysteries is: what’s this “anointing with oil” thing, right? What’s that? And there’s all kinds of answers.

Let me tell you a thought line that may assist you to think about this, and it may lead you to the conclusion that I’ve made. And before we talk about anointing with oil, the verses in here that say “if you’re sick,” “if you’re weak,” “if you’re whatever,” and then that “you’ll be healed” or “saved”—those words are ambivalent. Those words can be used in two different ways. They can talk about physical problems, most of them, but they can also just as readily talk about non-physical problems by way of either a metaphor with physical problems or just as meaning “weak.”

So when it says “sick,” a better translation is probably “weak,” because “sick” says it must be physical, whereas “weak” says it could be physical weakness or it could be moral or spiritual weakness. Okay. And the same thing with “heal.” You know, if we keep in mind that “healing” can mean either a restoration to health or it can mean, you know, that we’ve healed the arms, that the limbs that hang down—in Hebrews, for instance, same word—then it can mean a physical or a spiritual, rather, healing of somebody who’s really drooping, right? You know the text in Hebrews: “fix the people whose hands, whose arms lie limp, right? Fix them, make them better, make them whole.”

And so that’s a metaphorical use of a physical condition to speak about spiritual condition. So the words can go either way. Number one.

So who are we supposed to be anointing with oil? Well, it’s not clear. The only people that I know that anoint with oil—including what this church has done in the past—we always anoint physical conditions. But the text from my perspective could go either way. Okay.

With that in mind, let’s talk about anointing with oil, which is attached to the prayer of the elders for the person. Now, you know, one big issue is that prophets, priests, and kings were anointed, right? Anointed ones. So it’s a reminder that we’re prophets, priests, and kings. It’s a reminder of Christ. All that sort of works, right? And another thing it does, of course, is oil. As you should know, in this church, is a really important connection or symbol of the work of the Holy Spirit. So whatever’s going on in this process is a work of the Holy Spirit for the person. Okay? So all those things are true and I think we can bring all those to the text.

But here’s the question I think that drives me in a particular direction. What lay people—non-priest, non-king, special non-special officers, right? What lay people—and the whole, by the way, the Old Testament there to be a nation of priests and kings too, you. So so it isn’t just in the New Testament. But in any event, what in the Old Testament, what we have anointings with oil. What lay people were anointed with oil in the Old Testament?

Do you know? Can you think of any? Could be. There are none. I actually—I know there is one case, the only case that I can think of. And you know, John, if you’re hearing, is he here today? Yeah. Well, if I’m wrong, just let me know right away so I don’t go too far with this. As far as I know, John, the only lay person who is anointed with oil in the Old Testament is a man who’s recovered from leprosy.

Do you know any other case, John? No, I don’t either. So I think that’s the—that’s the Old Testament kind of thing exemplar that may hook up with anointing with oil in the New Testament.

Jesus does it. When Jesus sends out his apostles on their preaching ministry, he tells them to anoint with oil and heal the sick. What would they have thought about that—anointing lay people with oil? What was the image? The only image I know of based on the word of God in the Old Testament is a person who was leprous.

And there’s a seven-day cleansing ritual ending in an eighth day and resurrection deal with sacrifices. And on the eighth day, that leprous, formerly leprous man is anointed with oil. Now, leprosy is a physical condition, but you know, it’s not because of somebody’s sin that a person becomes leprous necessarily. It can be. We know that God will strike certain people with leprosy, but it isn’t always connected to sin.

So that might drive us to a physical malady, but it’s the only physical malady that’s anointed with oil at its conclusion. And it seems like leprosy and that uncleanness is used generally by God to describe the nation of Israel—both in the Old and New Testaments—as those who wandered away from him and who are idolatrous. It’s a leprous nation.

I think that when Jesus had his—and I could be wrong—but here’s what my meditation of the text has come up with: that when Jesus has his disciples, his apostles, anoint people with oil, it’s a mark that the nation has become leprous and that Jesus is healing the leprosy of the nation. Jesus is resurrecting Israel. And Jesus, when you’re resurrected, the spirit’s power and authority he comes upon you.

And the leprous man would be oiled up on his right ear so he could hear the word of God, on his right thumb so he could do the word of God, and on his right big toe, which is similar to the priestly ordination—but this is not a priest. This is a man in his ordinary hearing, doing, and wherever he went would be empowered by the Holy Spirit to do work for the Savior, do work for Yahweh. Okay? And then the rest of the oil that was left over be put on his head.

Okay. Put on his head. And so anointing with oil seems to be a restoration from a physical condition that was a picture or symbol of spiritual death, spiritual wasting away. The leprous man doesn’t, you know, get something and fall over dead immediately. He wastes away, right? Okay.

I combine those two things. The text can go either way—physical or spiritual conditions being referred to here. And then I see the anointing with oil that seems to only hook up for laymen with a restoration from leprosy with all of its symbolism attached to leprosy and uncleanness. And I think what is going on here is—I think that these words are actually referring to spiritual struggles, not to physical health. That’s where I think another evidence of that is. The opening text, the opening verse in this section, this pericope on prayer—is absolutely. Everybody knows that “words,” when you’re suffering, means suffering from evil.

So if you’re in persecution, okay, if you’re having struggles or trials with your own sin, evilness, with other sin, people’s sins and evilness, whatever it is, that’s the header to this entire section. So I think that the header would point us towards seeing these other words first and foremost—not that you can’t do it in terms of physical healing, but first and foremost, it seems like it pushes us in the direction of people who are weak or sickly, who are weak spiritually.

You know, people who have been in the fight for a long time have grown discouraged and depressed because of the persecution, the difficulties, maybe the physical exhaustion of the sort of work God has called them to do has contributed to it. But they’re struggling—people struggling in the church, I guess is what I’m saying—to stay faithful to God, right? Who are kind of wasting away spiritually.

I think that’s what this text is talking about. Okay. That’s the ones who are to call for the elders and to be anointed with oil. They’re to be refreshed. They’re to see that they’re like the leprous one—God is bringing them back from the dead. They’re being newly anointed as a new creature to dedicate the person’s life to God.

If there’s a connection to their own personal sin that’s helped bring the weakness, confess it. The text doesn’t say “always have them confess sin.” It says “if there has been sin, it will be forgiven him.”

So I think that in terms of the stuff we know, this is about prayer. The stuff we don’t know, I think it’s about the institutional church and her officers, the elders, having a particular ministry of prayer and anointing with oil for people that are in severe spiritual struggles who, for whatever reason, you know, are at the end of their rope, right? And we’re to come along and pray for them and restore them. And you know, if that’s the case, then the assurance, right, of “it will heal the person” can be said to be pretty emphatic.

Now let me address that too. That’s another problem in the text: “The prayer of faith will heal the person.” Prayer of faith just means a prayer based on faith. It doesn’t mean a prayer of great confidence. It means a prayer that says: “I have faith that Jesus is the great healer whether it’s spiritual or physical. A prayer of faith is: ‘Lord, we would like this person to be healed, physical or spiritual. And we know that sometimes you don’t do that. But we know that if you’re going to do it, we go to you because you’re the source of all healing. Lord God, please heal this particular person.’”

That’s a prayer of faith. Okay? It’s a prayer that maybe, as the person that Jesus healed—the son of, the man who says Jesus says, “Well, do you believe?” “Well, I believe, but help me in my unbelief,” right? But he knew where to go. So the prayer of faith is not faith in what God will do. It’s not confidence in what he will do necessarily. The prayer of faith is a prayer to the one in whom we have faith—is the only source of all blessing—and that’s God.

So the prayer offered to God in that attitude—that’s a prayer of faith. Will it heal him? Well, physically, not necessarily. No. All prayer is bounded by the providence of God, right? Okay.

So we have people here that use guns, and we have people here with young children. And you know, if your eight-year-old son—”What do you want for Christmas this year?” “Well, I’d like a rocket launcher.” No. Let’s make it more realistic. “I’d like an attack rifle. I’d like some kind of a rifle that can shoot semi-automatically with armor-piercing shells. I’d like that. And I’d like to start being able to use it.” Well, that’s a request from the son. And are you going to grant it? Of course not. Or you may say, “When you turn twenty, you’ll get that,” right?

Now, we’re not children, but in a way, we are, right? Because of our limitations of what we know and don’t know. And so we don’t know. I mean, there are many things in life that we’re going to ask for. We don’t know if it’s good for us or not. If we’re healthy the next week, it could be. It’s like giving us an AK-47 in the midst of people that we’re angry at. I don’t know. God knows. He knows what we need. Okay? And so prayers are not always—you can’t say with confidence that prayer will be answered in the affirmative.

And when we read texts like that seem to say that, we have to put that in the context of all of Scripture. And earlier in this very same epistle, James has said, “You ask and you don’t receive because you ask amiss.” So we have to put it—we have to bound it with all that stuff.

Now, so if it’s a request for physical healing, maybe answered, maybe not. Who knows? It’s up to God. He’s the smart one here. Prayer for spiritual strength, I think we can have more confidence about praying for that, right? We have a member of this church—member in good standing. They’ve struggled with whatever it is—is maybe sin, maybe not sin, maybe the sin of others. They’re on the verge of really not even want to go to church anymore. Whatever it is, they don’t want to pray anymore. They’re at the end of their rope spiritually.

And we pray for that person. We anoint them with oil. We make them a special subject of prayer for the elders of the church. I think we can with confidence say that should turn that person around, assuming they’re part of the elect of God. He has a confident prayer earlier in this epistle, right? Do you remember this? Right at the beginning, again?

You know, when we get to the end of something, one of God’s books, we sort of look at the beginning again. Trials, counting it joy, how prayer, community, confessing of sin—early on, what did he say you should pray for? Verse four or five in chapter one: “If anyone lacks wisdom, let him ask of God who gives all things freely and graciously,” right? Now, that’s a prayer God will grant you wisdom. Now you may not know that he’s given you wisdom, but he’s going to give you wisdom because he always wants that for you. And that’s the point of the verse on prayer at the beginning.

So the prayer at the end is probably, in my way of thinking, like that. That’s one other reason why I think it’s prayer for the spiritual strengthening of the person, not necessarily physical restoration of the person.

All right. So that’s that’s my best take is that the leprosy thing is really the analogy here. That’s the way they would have understood it in the Gospel accounts. This is based on the Gospel accounts. So I think that’s the way the Jewish primarily Jewish audience here, Jewish Christians, would have interpreted it—as a restoration from leprosy. And so I think that’s what it is. And I think that kind of helps clear up some of the ambiguities of the text, although by no means all of them.

Now, if you don’t like that explanation, that’s okay. I’m giving you my best understanding of the scriptures as I see them, and it’s what—it’s the direction that I’ve come to believe after studying and meditating on the text and reading a whole bunch of different commentaries on it. But the big thing is prayer.

So back to what we know is true. And the second big thing is, as I said, and just to re-emphasize the point here, the second big takeaway from the text—whether you agree with everything else I’ve said—that’s really a lot of that has to do with what the elders are going to do in this church, right? Either way, I think the elders would like to know if you want them to come and pray for you and anoint you with oil. Either way, we do that kind of thing, whether it’s spiritual or physical.

But that’s an elder thing, but it relates to you because it will relate to certain ones of you that we end up praying for. But that’s that. What you need to know is: pray individually, at times pray with the elders, have the elders pray for you, and then pray corporately. And then secondly, as I said, the text that tells about people praying corporately also exhorts us, verse 16: “Confess your trespasses one to the other.”

Now, this is pretty straightforward, right? It’s not easy to do, and it’s not easy necessarily to do in a right way. What are some of the problems? Well, you could be overly morbid about your sins and confess them in a kind of an odd gushing sort of way, right? And that might be difficult and problematic. But more often than not, our problem with this text is we just don’t want to do it. We don’t want to tell other people about our sins. We don’t trust the people, that they’re not going to tell other people about our sins, or we don’t want to admit that we’ve got particular sins.

Now, I understand that. I’m a man with the same mindset as you. I don’t like doing this either. But it doesn’t make any difference because the God who loves us, who loves you, more than you can possibly know—okay? And I know we get a picture of that love every Lord’s day here in the death of Christ. But that God who loves you more than you could possibly know has given you a whole epistle here about sufferings and difficulties and trials. And he’s opened it up by saying, “Count it all joy.”

So he wants us to get to joy, brothers and sisters, in our trials. And at the end, the matching section says: “The way you’re going to get there—believe me and trust me, God says, and I say, trusting and believing God—the way we’re going to get there, surviving the kind of external problems and internal problems of divisions in churches and problems, the way we’re going to get there is prayer and confession of sin. Confession of sin one to the other.”

Bonhoeffer—what was his book? Was it called Life Together? Who knows? Was there a Bonhoeffer book called Life Together? Yes. And in Life Together he’s got a section on confession. I thought that was the name of it. I couldn’t remember the exact title, but he’s got a section on confession of sin one to the other. And he’s very careful about it. He says it’s not a law. You know, you don’t have to do it every time you’ve got a sin. I understand that. He says, “I know that there are problems about it. But then he says, this is a practice of the early church that really needs to come back. We need to do this.”

You’ve heard me say—I was given a book by Jay Grimstead recently, and you’ve heard me talk about this—but Grimstead early on, thirty years ago, began a lot of the sorts of reconstruction sort of activities that were helpful to this church. But Grimstead early on said: “The Methodist cell group, when it went away in our country, is when problems really started to happen.” And those cell groups were times—they would get together and confess sins to each other in small groups and then pray for one another. And Grimstead said: “When that went away, things really changed.”

I believe that because prayer is significant. And this text tells us near the conclusion of it that also significant is confessing our sins to one another.

Now, brothers and sisters, I just want to exhort us to see the community groups as a potential place where both these things should be ongoing. And I’m so encouraged by the reports from community groups that are praying for one another and are getting down below the surface a little bit. But I’d love to see that continue and spread to all the groups. It’s not just a prayer time, right? But it is partially to be a prayer time, and it’s to be a time where relationships are built and formed and you rely upon each other and you can trust each other enough to confess your sins to each other and ask for prayer for something other than your dog.

Yeah, dogs are important. I get that. But you know what I’m saying, right? That’s why one of the reasons we established community groups was so there would be intentional discipleship. Discipleship happens through confession of sin and prayer, and we need to figure out a way to get there in our community groups—to get there in our community groups so confession of sin is very important.

Doesn’t have to be the community group. Could be a small group of friends that you have. But I think for most of us, the community group will be where this will become a regular feature of your life. I remember when we started these groups up a couple of years ago, and you know, talking with you know, one of the young men of the church that really wanted us to do this, and that was one of the things he said: “For the young people, our prayer times seem a little, you know, not real, not connected to life. Well, let’s start community groups. Connect up the prayers and confession of sin to real life. Make it real, and that’ll be good.”

But you know what? That’s hard to do. It’s hard to do, and it begins with a commitment to do it, which here in this text is, I think, the place to talk about it.

Okay, one last subject before we conclude. So we’re moving toward the end now. So the big deals, the big takeaways, is the movement from individual to corporate that produces joy. And it’s a corporate prayer time, individual prayer, but also corporate prayer—pray for one another. And connected with that is confession of sin. And that these things are effectual for taking us when we’re in times of spiritual weakness and making us strong again in the Lord for the work.

And then finally—and I asked the question and I didn’t answer it. Elijah, a man just like you and me, right? In well, in some ways yes, and in some ways no. He was like us. How was he unlike us? Well, he knew God’s word really well. Why did he say “drought, God”? Because he read in Deuteronomy 28. He knew the word of God that the blessings and cursings—one of the cursings was drought. The heavens would become brass, or whatever it is, right? Your land would be parched up, parched and dry. So he knows the Bible well enough to pray accurately and effectively for things that he knows God has said will come to pass.

So he’s listened to God, brothers and sisters. You want to talk to God? Listen to him, okay? Listen to him. Listen to him in his word. Listen to him in your prayer times together. Listen to him in the worship services. The spirit ministers to you. Write things down. Listen to God. And if we’re not listening to God, why would he listen to us when we go to him? Why would God really answer the prayers of fair-weather friends who only go to him for things we need?

Well, actually, he is so gracious and loving, yes. Frequently he will answer those prayers, but you can’t count on that, right? You know, the only time you go to the God Father is when you got a problem and not to give him respect, right? Probably he’s not going to be positively moved toward your request. By way of analogy, this is God.

Elijah was like us. He was just like you and me. He felt the same sorts of things. Weak like you, prone to anger like me, whatever it might be, right? That’s who the guy was. He was normal. But he had disciplined his life to listen to God in his word. And he knew how to pray then because of that word. Number one.

Number two, he was an obedient guy. We don’t have the time now, but when Peter Leithart preached on this at our family camp several years ago, he talked about a “command compliance pattern.” God gives a command. Elijah is compliant. And there’s this pattern. And if you read the account of Elijah in First Kings 17-19, this is what it says: God will say, “Well, leave this place. Go east. Go to the brook Kidron, right? Go to that brook and I’ll feed you there.” And then the next verse will say: Elijah left the place and he went to that brook and he sat there waiting for God to feed him or something along those lines. This happens several times in the account of Elijah. Why?

Because when we read in James that Elijah’s prayers were answered, we want to have our prayers answered. And he says, “This is the way you do it. Command compliance.” When God tells you what to do, you do it. Just the way he says to do it, you do it. That’s who Elijah was. He listened to God. He knew his word. And secondly, he didn’t just know it—he obeyed the word of God. When God said, “Do X, Y, and Z,” he did it.

When we read in the text: “Confess your sins to one another,” are we going to do it? If not, then we’re not going to have the expectation of answered prayer like Elijah got. Okay?

So number one: he knew God enough—because he listened to him. And secondly, he was compliant. And then third, he prayed. He was active and involved. And his prayer life is so much established as part of the text, and we can read in it, that James doesn’t have to be told that he prayed for the drought. He knows he prayed for the drought. He was had an intimate relationship with God. You see it back and forth. They would talk, right?

Do you ever wrestle with God in prayer? Well, that’s what Elijah did at times, right? So Elijah’s talking to God because he’s listening to God, and he’s praying for things that won’t benefit him necessarily. He’s praying for things for the kingdom.

I ask: Why? Why is this the illustration—the rain? Well, if all this text was about was physical healing, why not use the raised son from physical struggles, right? But that’s not the point of the text. Now it may address physical healing, but what’s the point of the whole book? “The wrath of man doesn’t work or affect the righteousness of God.” He’s telling us what does affect the righteousness of God.

Elijah was like the people at James’s period of time, persecuted by the king, syncretic religion, Baal worship, how in the very temple of God persecution of the prophets and the godly people—has to run for his life at times, right? And because of this, Elijah’s like them. He got tired. He got depressed. He got fearful, right? A man like us. So very much an example.

And God doesn’t say, “It’s all right, just suffer through it, everything’s okay.” He says: “Yeah, part. That’s part of the message earlier in this chapter: ‘Wait for the rains, wait for the judgment,’ right? That’s part of it. But the other part of it is he tells us here that while we’re waiting, to affect change—not wrath, not bad words, not slandering each other, but praying for one another, praying for the situation.”

He uses this example because this example is explicitly tied to Elijah’s interaction with Ahab and the wickedness of Israel as he sought to recover the nation. That’s why. Because he wanted these people to be encouraged—not just so they could get by in life, but so they could be more than conquerors through the same God who made Elijah a more than conqueror, and bringing the judgment of God upon the pagan god priests of Baal and those in Israel who would follow them.

He wants to give you victory. That’s the point. That’s his intent. And this message from Elijah’s life is a much more potent example—even though it doesn’t talk about prayer in the Old Testament text, it’s a much more potent example of really what the whole point of the epistle is. Yeah, it’s about putting up with things. Yeah, it’s about not sinning as a result of it, but it’s a lot more than that.

He says, “Pray for one another that you might be healed.” Interesting. When it says that you’d be healed, it’s plural. So we confess our sins to one another. We pray for one another, that we corporately—if these things are going on, prayer and confession—might be healed, might be made whole, might be made strong for the battles that we’re in to proclaim the gospel of Jesus Christ to Oregon City, the cities you live in, to the world, and to make a dent.

Remember: prayer is effectual for making a dent in our culture, for changing things. And that’s, I think, why James uses this example of Elijah.

You know, there are other themes. Can’t go through all of them, but earlier in the chapter, right, you’ve got parched ground, and God says, “That’s where you’re at. But rains will come. Be patient for the rain.” And Elijah is the same thing, right? No rain, parched ground because of God’s judgment. And “wait for the rain; it will come.” And the rain will be a signal—and it was to Ahab and others—that God is the one who’s in control. And judgment is going to happen, and his people will be vindicated from their enemies.

If we don’t pray and confess sins to one another, we can end up being parched ground. You know, the difficulties and trials of life, right? Choking out the seed. We’re parched, dry, dirt. Some of you are that right now. I know you are—parched, dry. It’s not because you’re a sinful person. It’s because the Lord has taken you through a lot of things in your life, and a lot of things over the past few years.

What’s our way to get oil, soothing oil, rain, the reign of God’s blessing into our lives? You know, it’s clear and simple. All this other—okay, forget all my theories about leprosy and stuff. That’s all there. Some of you are interested in that stuff, and it’s important for the elders. But the big picture here is quite simple: You’re dry and parched. The way to get back into a position where God brings you out of that is prayer and confession of our sins. It’s getting real with one another and having the kind of Christian fellowship, koinonia, that marks a successful advancing community that changes the world in which it lives.

Let’s pray. Father, we thank you for the wonderful text before us, and we thank you for the depths and all the contours of your scriptures, the beauty of them, the way so many themes are echoed and resonate through this epistle of James that we’ve been studying. Bless us with our last sermon or two on it in the next couple of weeks. And bless us, Father, as a congregation, that we might remember that we’re called to be people whose faith produces deeds and works.

Bless us, Lord God, with these works that we might be a praying people and that we might be people who confess our sins one to the other. In Jesus name we ask it. Amen. Amen. Amen.

Show Full Transcript (49,963 characters)
Collapse Transcript

COMMUNION HOMILY

I mentioned many times that in the instructions in 1 Corinthians we’re told that this is a commemoration of the death of our savior. In Hebrews it contrasts the Lord Jesus Christ with other priests and other offerings because up until Jesus’ death had to be going on over and over and over and over and over. And yet with Jesus, we have the final death and we have him who lives forever as a result of his once-for-all death on the cross.

And so in terms of our peace with God, it’s been secured now through a single death that we commemorate that occurred over 2,000 years ago. But the emphasis is at times to be placed upon the fact that this was the end of it. This was the end of death. Jesus ever lives having died once and that’s kind of the thrust of Hebrews chapter 7 and verse 25 tells us one of the significant elements of this. It says therefore he is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through him since he always lives to make intercession for them.

And so the death of Jesus reminding us that he ever lives now since that single death is specifically tied to his perpetual intercession at the right hand of the Father. The verbiage almost makes it sound like this is the purpose for his eternal life, his ongoing life. He always lives for what purpose? To make intercession for the saints.

The same truth is spoken of in Romans 8:34. “Who is he who condemns? It is Christ Jesus who died and therefore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.” So we can’t talk about prayer and effectiveness of prayer for changing the world around us and the goodness of God answering our prayers for wisdom and spiritual renewal and strength without reminding ourselves that the reason for this is not our perfection but it’s the perfection of the one who sits at the right hand of the Father and ever makes intercession for us so that our prayers are presented to the Father by the one whose prayer is always answered by the Father for the purpose of the glory and kingdom of the Father and for the well-being of those who are united to Christ.

This table is a reminder of the continual intercession and prayer by our savior for us, that this is the purpose for which he lives and sits at the right hand of the Father.

1 Corinthians 11: “For I received from the Lord that which also I delivered to you that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which he was betrayed, took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, ‘Take, eat. This is my body which is broken for you. Do this as my memorial.’”

Let’s pray. Father, we do, according to the precept and example of our savior, give you thanks for this bread, confessing that it is indeed the memorial that you gaze upon and treat us according to the death of Jesus, not according to our deserts in and of ourselves. We thank you, Father, for this bread and pray you would bless us with spiritual grace from on high and strength, Lord God, to those that are weak for the purpose of serving you this week. In Jesus’ name we pray. Amen.

Q&A SESSION

Q1

**Eric R.:** My question is about prayer. Scripture says great men did great things—the sun stood still and all kinds of things. But when I pray, none of that stuff happens. If I prayed for the sun to stand still right now, I know it probably wouldn’t happen, and it’s probably not because of my lack of faith. It’s for some other reason. So the question has always been on my mind: how is it that prayer is so effectual if we don’t see those kinds of things happening in the same way that we do see it happening in scripture? Jesus said, “If you pray these things in my name, I’ll do it.” But as you indicated in the sermon, it’s not necessarily that it happens on a one-to-one correlation. So I’ve always wondered: what do we make of that?

**Pastor Tuuri:** That’s a good question. So as I understood your question, what’s the relationship of the promises of answered prayer in the New Testament to the age of the church, we could say? And why don’t spectacular things happen, right? Well, I don’t know. Number one, whether we can answer the question or not, I don’t think it changes a whole lot of what we’re supposed to be doing, but it’s an excellent question.

There are a couple of particular directions I might go. One, there may still be things like that going on and we just don’t know about it. In the third world, etc., you do hear accounts of rather dramatic answers to prayers. And rather than discount them, I think we should say that in certain times and in certain places, God still works that particular way.

Number two, I think that if you look at maybe James as an example of this, there’s this transition with the coming of the Savior away from sort of the external things like that to more the specific sort of day-by-day encouraging sorts of things that are talked about in the general epistle of James. And those things are no less significant or important or world-changing, but they don’t look flashy, right?

So I would think that maybe that’s part of the answer too: we’ve kind of come to maturity in Christ. And in the same way that, for instance, the sign gifts of tongues and gifts of healing set up normal sorts of actions of language translation and medicine with the advent of the gospel—in the same way, some of those more spectacular instances of answered prayers were meant to assure us so that the normal sorts of actions we pray for are the things that really end up changing the world.

I don’t know though—is that at all satisfactory?

**Eric R.:** Yeah, that seems like maturity has eyes to see great things maybe, and we were in an immature, less mature age then, but it’s been replaced by like you said medicine and dominion and that sort of thing. So onward to maturity.

**Pastor Tuuri:** Dallas. And like I said, I still think there are no doubt—and you hear about them all the time—examples of what we would call more or less sort of miraculous or very providential events that happen in times of struggle, trial, and difficulty with persecution going on.

Anybody else have any thoughts on that? Or another question?

Q2

**Mike Meyer:** Yeah, this is Mike Meyer. Just to piggyback on that, I heard a guy say one time years and years ago that God doesn’t part the Red Sea every day. And I think his point was that if he did, that wouldn’t be a big deal. And I think he went on to point out that he basically had three periods of scripture, three historical periods in scripture with an explosion of miracles. That’s Moses, and then Elijah, and then the time of Christ. And really, other than that, I mean, there’s not really a lot of miracles in scripture.

**Pastor Tuuri:** That’s a good point. Yeah. There are these specific times in redemptive history where these things seem to—for some reason we could probably talk about—but for some reason all of a sudden start happening a lot.

**Mike Meyer:** Related to what you just said, in the gospels where Jesus makes those kind of promises, I think they are fairly directed to the apostles and the work of Acts and the period of 70 AD. And so related to your comment, you know, about the fact that the prophecies and so on—a lot of that stuff changed and ceased their regular occurrences as did those other three periods of real dynamic, momentous kinds of activities. A lot of the reason is because they were a revelation of what the prophets or apostles were saying, right?

**Pastor Tuuri:** Good. There’s things going on that I don’t know what’s happening.

Q3

**Questioner:** Is that another question or is that comments? Denn, you know, two of my kids have told me that one of the most powerful moments that they can remember in their childhood was when my wife or I would come then confess our sins to them. And you know, confessing your sins to one another is not just something that happens in the context of the corporate body or community groups. It ought to happen in our homes as well.

**Pastor Tuuri:** Yes. And you know, I think it’s really useful in the life of children, especially to coach them and instruct them to confess to one another when they sin against each other as brothers and sisters, and parents to children as well.

Well, I think that provides a real wonderful testimony and example of the grace of God. And the fact that I, as a parent, when I tell my child “I’ve sinned against you” or “I’ve sinned against mom” and I’m confessing this to the family—doing that is a testimony that I’m under authority as well, right? It’s not just the dad’s the boss of the family. I’m under authority and I’m called to submit to God as much as I’m calling you to.

**Questioner:** Just can I follow up on that? You know, we said the same thing about community groups. If you’re going to have and try to build a little deeper prayer life with each other and accountability, you kind of have to start with the leader, you know? I mean, not necessarily, but generally if a leader is willing, you know, to open up a little and kind of get a little real about his sins and his things he’s trying to break off—that will encourage, you know, the others in the group as well.

And so when a parent or authority figure in the church or in the home or whatever it is confesses sin, it’s proper in and of itself, but it also is a wonderful way to model to those under us how to do it. And to me it was keeping myself accountable as well, right?

**Pastor Tuuri:** The other comment around the anointing. The leper being anointed is the only liturgical anointing of a layman, but there were a lot of non-liturgical anointings that were talked about. Like, you know, “you will anoint your fields and they will bear fruit and oil, but you won’t anoint yourself with it,” right? But that word for anointing—I looked it up—is a different word altogether. The liturgical anointing in the Hebrew is a different word than the word anoint, like Ruth anointed herself and went to meet Boaz, right?

**Questioner:** Right. It’s different altogether.

**Pastor Tuuri:** But there is an anointing which I think ought to, you know, make us think about the liturgical anointings, right, that we that probably are tied to. But anyway, there’s I mean David and his men anointed themselves, you know, when it says God gives us oil to make our face shine, right? Psalm 104. So there’s that to consider as well in that whole anointing.

**Questioner:** Yeah. Well, and you know, I’ve made what I said pretty tentative today. And there’s another way to look at it. One is that the word that’s used for anointing or oiling—Lenski says it’s oiling with oil. And it seems to be more non-liturgical. The word he could have used a more precise word if they wanted it to be absolutely identified as liturgical. So again, it’s a little ambivalent.

But if it is physical healing and if the oil is medicinal—and some people believe that in Isaiah, I don’t remember where, somewhere in Isaiah it talks about oil softening the wounds, right? And the Samaritan, you know, that story involves the anointing with oil or medically—and that oil was medicinal as well. Now, I don’t have a hard time sort of seeing that in James, but if you do see it that way or at least have these associations because of the mechanical or medicinal word for anointing, you know what it shows us then is the way to apply that truth with or without the example is that the physical healing arts are to be accompanied with prayer by us, right?

So it sanctifies that, so to speak, or it puts that in the name of the Lord. So it takes what we would think of as normal physical healing and says really this also—as your doctor does various things with you—should be prayed for because ultimately it’s only God that heals.

One other point I didn’t make in the sermon: in terms of confessing sins again, whether it’s physical weakening or spiritual weakening, either way, when people are brought low, right, through physical malady or through the trials and vicissitudes of life—when they’re brought low, lots of times that’ll be the time when God will reveal your sins to you better, or at least the need to confess and move on from them.

So some of the commentators make a really big deal, appropriately, that whenever we’re really getting hammered either by physical illness or by spiritual difficulties, when we’re getting hammered is the time for us to really meditate on what possible sins could be involved with this. Not saying that all hammering, or even most of it, comes from your own sin, but it provides an opportunity because of the humbling that goes on through that, for you know, a reflection upon whatever sins really should be brought to the fore in that issue.

Q4

**Questioner:** Did you have more points, John?

**Pastor Tuuri:** Okay. Excellent comments.

Q5

**Aaron Colby:** Hi, Dennis. This is Aaron Colby. Yeah, I’m not sure if I’m the only Christian who has this struggle or not, but when somebody has a difficulty, my first response isn’t to pray it. And my struggle is that it’s usually my last response because I want to do something. I want to go in there with my hands, with my mind, with what I know and help them try to relieve whatever struggle is going on because it just seems like I feel powerless when I pray.

You know, I don’t know if anybody else struggles with that or if they’re willing to say so, but you know, my first inclination isn’t to pray. It’s almost always the last.

**Pastor Tuuri:** Yeah. You know, I don’t know. I think that’s true. The other way around. Yeah, I think that’s true for most of us. In fact, I was going to use myself as an illustration. I was talking to someone this very week while I’m preparing for the sermon on prayer about some great struggles this person has gone through—really for years and years and years, but in kind of an intensified way the last couple years.

And you know, looking back on my time with this person, all I did was give them advice and try to reach their rationality. Well, that’s not—I don’t want to be too hard on myself. I was trying to bring biblical truths to bear, but yeah, I thought: I didn’t pray for that person. Why didn’t I do that?

So I think we all need this exhortation today, you know, for that to be high on the list of things that we do—the praying with one another in the various forms in which it’s addressed in today’s text: personally for each other in friends, community groups, etc., one-on-one, and then also the special praying of the elders.

Q6

**Asa W.:** Hi, this is Asa in the front. Yeah, you know, I remember reading a passage either this week or last week about where the Lord is admonishing people for not coming to him in prayer. Instead, they go to somebody else like a doctor, and I may—the passage may say something about going to doctors before asking, before coming to the Lord and saying, you know, “heal me.” And I think it might have something to do with our intimacy with him, with our intimacy with him.

**Pastor Tuuri:** Yes. Because, you know, he’s always with us. And it’s dishonoring to him when we live our lives and we forget that he’s there or ignore his presence. And he’s promised to always be with us. And so a lot of times we can get up in our work and stuff, and I think that’s offensive to him.

**Asa W.:** Yeah, I think that’s absolutely true. So if you think about the relationship of these verses back to last week’s verse 12, you know, where essentially we’re being told to let our yes be yes and no be no because we’re always in the presence of God—we’re always swearing on a stack of Bibles, God is always with us, as you’ve just said. So the intent of much of this chapter has been to get us to bring God self-consciously into our times of speaking, into commerce, earlier in the text, right? To bring God into our work and vocation and here to bring God into both our rejoicings and our struggles and trials. So it’s the ever-present relationship we have of intimacy with God.

**Pastor Tuuri:** I think you’re absolutely right that stresses this. Yeah, I think that’s an excellent point, and again, that’s where Elijah is such a great example of what that intimacy looks like. You know, because as soon as you say it’s a matter of intimacy with God, well, then we have certain things we’ve learned from our culture about what that’s like, that seems all—but if you look at Elijah as an example of a man who prayed, and he’s certainly not an example of somebody that we would say is intimate in a passive, almost feminine sense, right?

**Asa W.:** Right. Right.

**Pastor Tuuri:** I don’t mean that.

**Asa W.:** Yeah, no, I know you don’t, but that’s why it’s good to look at the example of Elijah. But I think you’re absolutely right. That’s the kind of thing that’s supposed to be going on. That’s why Paul says, “Pray without ceasing.” Yeah, it’s constant. It’s—I think Elijah was maybe described as somebody who walked in his presence, right? He’s constantly in his presence.

**Pastor Tuuri:** Exactly. And to not pray to him is not good for us, right? Is dishonoring to him. Another thing about Elijah—you mentioned this in your sermon and I like it, but this is an interesting revelation about his relationship because God actually tells him in 1 Kings, “I’m going to make the rain stop and you go to the river—the creek, the brook Cherith—and you’re going to live there and I’m going to provide for you.”

And then when he’s—and then he says, “Go back. Go over here. And when the oil and bread start coming, stop coming—I’m going to make it rain again.” Yeah, so he kind of gave Elijah a heads up on what was happening. And Elijah in this passage—it says that Elijah was praying for these things.

**Pastor Tuuri:** Yeah. Tells us the rest of the story, right? So he knew—so he knew God’s plans, but he was in prayer for those plans.

**Asa W.:** Yeah. And I think we kind of know God’s plans too. His plans are to bless this land, to bless our families. When we fail to pray for those things that he wants, who knows if that lack of faith keeps those things from happening, right?

**Pastor Tuuri:** Right. Well, it’s interesting. You know, the disciples asked Jesus, “Should we call down fire from heaven on these guys?” And so we say, “Oh, stupid idiots.” You know, but what Jesus rebukes is that they’re not understanding. I mean, I think that and other verses actually do seem to imply that we can ask God for fire from heaven or whatever it is in relationship to Deuteronomy 28. But it’s the attitude of personal pride that drives that kind of request of them to Jesus. But it seems like in Revelation that’s just what we do: we ask for particular things in relationship to the will of God for judgments on our land.

And we—yeah. One other thing about the intimacy thing, you know, one way that might kind of nail that home in our heads, you know? If your wife or a good friend, right, and you always walk around with that person all day long and then all week long, but you know, you walk along and you sort of talk to yourself, you sort of go to do whatever you’re going to do and they go with you, and the only time you talk to them is, you know, “Oh, could you drive the car now?” You know, this is not intimacy. This is not living with an awareness of the other person in your presence. Or if you text them, right?

Q7

**Questioner:** Anybody else?

**Pastor Tuuri:** It’s probably about time to eat or past time.

Q8

**Amanda Evans:** Okay, this is Amanda Evans. Have you ever read the book *A Praying Life* by Paul Miller?

**Pastor Tuuri:** You know, I think I might have a long time ago, but it’s been a long time if I have, or maybe I read portions of it.

**Amanda Evans:** I read it last year and it kind of expounds on the same sort of stuff that you were talking about. And so if anyone wants further resources for reading about prayer and learning how to pray, I would highly recommend that. He answered every prayer question that I had about prayer—like what would happen when God doesn’t answer, and how do I pray—and just a lot of it. You get the feeling that God’s definitely worked in his life and he hasn’t had an easy life, but it’s definitely driven him to develop a praying life and have a really close relationship with God, and that leaks out in the book.

**Pastor Tuuri:** Yeah, that’s great. Highly recommend it. Okay, so that’s a good resource, and I will try to remember—I wrote a note, but that doesn’t guarantee it—but I’ll try to remember this week maybe to put out a link to it or something.

Another book that we, years ago, would hand out to people was a book called *The Method of Prayer* by Matthew Henry. And most people know Matthew Henry for his commentaries in the early years of our country’s life. But he has this thing on a method of prayer, and his prayers are mostly scripture. These are more like models for prayer that you can use, and they’re just filled with scripture. It’s another very useful book, I think.

And then if anybody else has any other good books on prayer that they would want to recommend to us, maybe we could put out names of two or three or four books. And community group leaders, or you talk to your community group leader, you know, try to make sure this becomes an emphasis. It already is in a lot of the groups, but if not, try to encourage them to, you know, apply this sermon in that way this week or in the next couple weeks.

Okay, let’s go have our meal.